Climate change: Point/counterpoint

Two guest viewpoints discussing climate change

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Climate has always changed and will always change

by Ian Eales

In Response to the Guest Viewpoint by Bryan Haydel (“Louisiana Land Mass Is Shrinking, Not Increasing,” Nov. 20):

One can pick any area on the planet and bemoan man’s interference. A 2015 federal study put California as the No. 1 risk of catastrophic flooding — higher than the southern hurricane states. According to the study, Sacramento could suffer a disaster to make what happened in Houston look like a rainy day.

Mr. Haydel is incorrect that 97 percent of climate scientists agree. It is a made-up statistic and there are plenty of reputable references to refute it if one just bothers to look. Hundreds of climate scientists have resigned from the IPCC [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] due to claims of data falsification.

Earlier this year, Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner, who resigned from the IPCC, stated, “There is no rapid sea-level rise going on today, and there will not be. ... On the contrary, if anything happens, the sea will go down a little.” (“UN IPCC Scientist Blows Whistle on Lies About Climate, Sea Level”

Isle de Jean Charles is sinking rather than flooding from sea level rise. To say that climate change is responsible is a red herring. A 2017 study at Tulane University found that subsidence is the primary cause. “A recent analysis of surface-elevation change (SEC) and vertical accretion (VA) data from marshes in North America and Europe suggests that concerns about marsh vulnerability to sea-level rise may have been overstated” (

It is interesting to note the Stephen H. Schneider, one of the IPCC founders, wrote in 1971, “It is found that even an increase by a factor of 8 in the amount of CO2, which is highly unlikely in the next several thousand years, will produce an increase in the surface temperature of less than 2°K.”

[Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide and Aerosols: Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate]

Similar results were returned 20 years earlier at Harvard and the British MO. Schneider then said in 1989, “We have to get some broad-based support to capture the public’s imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So, we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts we might have.

This ‘double ethical bind’ which we frequently find ourselves in cannot be solved by any formula. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest. I hope that means being both.”

(Discover, October 1989,) [Emphasis added]

The Sahara Desert was once a lush garden. Ditto Mesopotamia. The Anasazi in New Mexico were driven out by climate change long before the current CO2 hysteria. Decades of drought coinciding with the end of the Medieval Warm Period drove them off their formerly verdant land.

The climate has always changed.

The climate will always change.

Like the Anasazi, we must adapt.

Hood River acts on Climate Change. How about Florence?

By Michael Allen

I wish to report on my conversation with Kate McBride, mayor of Hood River, Ore., about a Climate Emergency Resolution that was passed by the Hood River City Council on Nov. 12.

Hood River became the first city in Oregon to pass such a resolution.

Mayor McBride outlined the two-year process that led to this resolution and pointed to one of the main reasons for its successful passage — namely that there was only one climate denier on the six person Council.

Students at the local high school were also instrumental by presenting their own resolution, which was used in part in the adopted resolution. The city made use of an intern under a stipend from the University of Oregon to help with development of the resolution.

Elements of an energy plan with many actionable items developed by the Hood River County Energy Planning Council, which Mayor McBride served on, will be used going forward.

In addition, the City will hire someone to help guide them in the implementation of strategies outlined in the resolution.

I was struck by the similarities between our efforts to educate our respective communities about the climate emergency. Both communities are comparable in size with 2017 populations of 7,686 in Hood River and 8,947 in Florence.

However, a big difference is in how our respective city councils reacted to the alarms raised by its citizens. The Florence City Council under the leadership of Mayor Joe Henry declined to respond to requests to address the climate crisis, first two years ago, and more recently in July.

I am inviting environmental activists to join me at City Hall every Friday for a Climate Strike protest, rain or shine, from 2:30 to 3:30 p.m., with signs demanding the city council act on the climate crisis. I am thankful for the more than 20 people who have signed our petition to demand action from the mayor and Florence City Council.

Together, we can make the City Council respond to the climate emergency by following the example of Hood River.


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